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		<title>the emerging church and neophilia- Is the emergent conversation coming apart?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the emergent conversation coming apart and drifting into neophilia? Kester Brewin introduced the&#160;concept&#160;of neophilia in a series of posts&#160;on his blog &#8216;Neophilia&#8217; -being in love with newness for newness&#8217; sake. Neophilia is a revolutionary mode. It tries to effect &#8230; <a href="http://www.postreligiouschristian.com/2006/02/26/the-emerging-church-and-neophilia-is-the-emergent-conversation-coming-apart/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the emergent conversation coming apart and drifting into neophilia? Kester Brewin introduced the&nbsp;concept&nbsp;of <a href="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=neophilia">neophilia</a> in <a href="http://thecomplexchrist.typepad.com/the_complex_christ/neophilia_series/index.html">a series of posts</a>&nbsp;on his blog</p>
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<p>&#8216;Neophilia&#8217; -being in love with newness for newness&#8217; sake. Neophilia is a revolutionary mode. It tries to effect quick change, but fails to settle on sustainable, deep-rooted solutions as it flits from one &#8216;saviour&#8217; to the next.</p>
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<p>I wonder if <a href="http://pagitt.typepad.com/pagittblog/2006/01/blog_announceme.html">Doug Pagitt&nbsp;decision to no longer&nbsp;&nbsp;share ideas on this blog</a>,&nbsp;and Mark Driscoll ripping&nbsp;into Brian Mclaren <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2006/01/brian_mclaren_o_2.html">A Prologue and Rant by Mark Driscoll</a>, are signs that the emergent church conversation is moving through the stages described in the book Brewin referenced on the subject of Neophilia &#8216;<a title="View product details at Amazon" href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=christiancompu00%26link_code=xm2%26camp=2025%26creative=165953%26path=http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%253fASIN=0002115581%2526tag=christiancompu00%2526lcode=xm2%2526cID=2025%2526ccmID=165953%2526location=/o/ASIN/0002115581%25253FSubscriptionId=0EMV44A9A5YT1RVDGZ82">The neophiliacs: A study of the revolution in English life in the fifties and sixties</a>. I think we may be seeing the beginning of the EC conversation moving into the Stage 3:The Frustration Stage.</p>
<p>As usual Kester has brought his practical insight and useful resources to bear on the global emerging church conversation.</p>


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		<title>D. A. won&#8217;t converse with Pagitt</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seminary professor&#160;&#38; author D.A. Carson who among others has leveled some scathing criticisms of the emerging church was apparently invited to talk with Doug Paigitt of Solomon&#8217;s Porch (an emerging church recently featured on the PBS Religion and Ethics Weekly &#8230; <a href="http://www.postreligiouschristian.com/2005/08/09/d-a-wont-converse-with-pagitt/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seminary professor&nbsp;&amp; author <a target="_blank" href="http://www.tiu.edu/people/faculty/carson.htm">D.A. Carson</a> who among others has leveled some scathing criticisms of the emerging church was apparently invited to talk with Doug Paigitt of <a target="_blank" href="http://www.solomonsporch.com/">Solomon&#8217;s Porch</a> (an emerging church recently featured on the PBS Religion and Ethics Weekly coverage of the emerging church ) about his perception of the emerging conversation. Brewin at <a target="_blank" href="http://thecomplexchrist.typepad.com/the_complex_christ/2005/08/carson_wont_be_.html">complex Christ</a>&nbsp;says he&#8217;s been told that Carson doesn&#8217;t want to talk with Paigitt or other folks in the emergent conversation. If that is true then, how does DA expect to become conversant with the emerging church as the title of his latest book suggests? Ah the ironies of modern thinking a one way conversation. </p>
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<p>Other thoughts on DA Carson&#8217;s book</p>
<p><a href="http://thebolgblog.typepad.com/thebolgblog/2005/05/d_a_carson_beco.html">http://thebolgblog.typepad.com/thebolgblog/2005/05/d_a_carson_beco.html</a></p>


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